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Re: Raised Catholic, now secular humanist/atheist- Testimonies of Ex-Christians

webmdave — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:09:59 -0000

That site isn't the only one mirroring some of our content. I'm afraid what they are doing is completely legal and there is nothing we can do about it.

Re: Needing some advice- Letters to the Webmaster

webmdave — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:03:50 -0000

Calm down already.

He's legit -- just young.

Re: NO TRUE CHRISTIANS! - ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:50:21 -0000

The real answer is in learning a little HTML: LINK

Re: NO TRUE CHRISTIANS! - ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:49:35 -0000

WRONG, Bozo.

Your God says this: "1) John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments." You don't love your imaginary god as you are quite plainly being disobedient and doing everything in your power to ignore the silly commands of your imaginary god.

Nope. You're not a True Christian™. You're a poser.

Re: NO TRUE CHRISTIANS! - ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:08:02 -0000

I'm not talking about you behind your back. I'm addressing your face. Read carefully: You are not a "True Christian™."

I can write that with authority, because you are blatantly disobedient to the direct command of your un-dead, man-god who as mandated his followers to give to everyone who asks.

I am clearly asking. You are clearly refusing.

And yet, here I am freely providing you with a forum to express your fanaticism, yet you cannot be so gracious as to even obey the direct command of your one and only holy god and share the cost of providing this forum by lending (giving) me ten lousy bucks!

What a taker!

Nope, no "True Christian™" here!

Re: “Would Jesus Wear a Rolex™?” - ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:59:56 -0000

SPAM removed.

Re: Needing some advice- Letters to the Webmaster

webmdave — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:46:46 -0000

Here's the response:

Okay, dude, what the hell is the matter with these people?

Mr. Webmaster, sir, please advise the masses that I have had a busy week with midterms. I am a university senior majoring in Accountancy. I have nothing to hide from anybody. I attend California State University, Northridge.

My full name is Norig B Karakashian. I am a male--not a female. No, my name is not an anagram for anything. My middle initial stands for Bedros. I happen to have an Armenian heritage, so I must bear such a name from my culture. I apologize if somebody's superficial mind decides to attack my name after the discussion group engages in the phenomenon of Groupthink.

How dare these people accuse me of being a covert follower of faith. I left no implication in my letter.

If these hasty judgments go on further, I will send a transcript of my communication with the alleged Christian. She is a female who resides in Jamaica (I am not kidding). She says she is a member of an organization called LEET (Logos Evangelists something something.)

As I said, I am busy with my studies. I am a 21-year-old intellectual who wanted casual feedback. I was very clear about "taking your time" when viewing and analyzing the video.

Please pass on my message to the rest of the gang. I would appreciate it.

Signed,

Norig B Karakashian
Glendale,Ca

Re: Needing some advice- Letters to the Webmaster

webmdave — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:31:22 -0000

I emailed your comment to her and am awaiting a response.

Re: Sell the Vatican -- Feed the World!- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:10:14 -0000

Mike,

Survival of the fittest means those who are fittest to survive. Again, it's about the species surviving, not necessarily the individual. The human race has a greater chance of surviving through mutual cooperation than through a "every man for himself" behavior. Sociopaths (without conscience, empathy, or concern for others, and likely in prison) are a small percentage of the human species. However, I think you'd agree that sociopaths do not contribute to the survival of the species.

I did not argue that toward the end of the "Natural Selection process..." at all. I argue that empathy, compassion, familial love, etc., are one of the reasons we were able to rise to our present position on the food chain. Lots of other life forms on the planet are stronger and bigger than us. But together, a cooperating group of naked primitives armed with mere sticks can bring down the largest, toothiest, most clawed equipped aggressive predators on the planet. Obviously working together for the common good is a good fit for survival. And in point of fact, quite a few other mammals run in cooperative packs for survival.

As far as Katrina goes, I am personally familiar with dozens of non-religious people who volunteered time, effort and funds to help the victims of that tragedy. I don't personally know a single religious person who did that. I suppose it's the crowds that we mutually run in that taints our view on that. There are a plethora of generous, compassionate people in the world. Your supposition that Christians are more generous and compassionate than every one else is, frankly, offensive at the least and most certainly misled. I could easily make the claim that the only reason any Christians do anything for others is entirely based on the selfish desire to earn jewels in some future crown. In fact, the whole idea of giving slavering worship of a deity that has promised to eternally torment untold millions of my fellow human beings for simply failing to adhere to the correct version of the "right" religion, is anathema. I don't care what kind of rewards a Hitler might offer me; I would still refuse to love and serve such a monster.

You seem stuck on holding up sociopathic behavior as your "proof" that most humans are predatory. Let me ask you this: If you were to abandon your religion today, do you really think you'd start stealing, raping, murdering, and so on, tomorrow? Really? Is the only reason you are a law abiding citizen is because you are afraid of a supernatural hammer?

Think about it.

Or, how about this thought: If there were no promise of everlasting bliss and no threat of never-ending horror, would you still love Jesus? Would you still be a Christian?

Do I think we've "arrived" evolutionarily speaking? I have no idea. I doubt it. Nothing in the world is static. The ability to change one's mind when new information is acquired (Wow, I didn't know that! Cool!) is foundational to science. Stagnation of thought (We already have all the truth there is, and we must reject anything that contradicts our truth.) is foundational to religion.

Lastly (for now), check this out: http://www.atheistvolunteers.org/Austin. Since these people are atheists, with no fantasy of rewards from heaven, what do you suppose motivates their efforts?

Re: Atheist after 40 years a Christian Minister- Testimonies of Ex-Christians

webmdave — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:09:47 -0000

;-')

Re: Putting God First: A Ridiculous Idea - ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:05:32 -0000

"G-D doesn't need anything" -- so says the latest Christian evangelist. But apparently anyone who spurns his affections is in for an eternity of horrific torment and unimaginable suffering. Your little god may not need anything, but she sure does have a sadistic streak.

It might interest you to know that homicidal sociopaths don't do what they do because they feel like they need something -- they just do what they do in many cases because they're bored.

Must be tough having omnipotence and omniscience. No surprises. Nothing to learn. No challenges at all. No way to die... Wow, all eternity must be nothing more than a monotonous drone of "Holy, Holy, Holy" for that poor girl(guy/it)." It's gotta be really boring -- even for a deity.

Re: Q&A about posting comments - Letters to the Webmaster

webmdave — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:57:34 -0000

Jodi, this thread is for the purpose of experimenting with and learning how to use our commenting system. Please take your religious evangelism to a more appropriate location.

Thanks.

Re: Atheist after 40 years a Christian Minister- Testimonies of Ex-Christians

webmdave — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:47:38 -0000

The whole problem with this conversation is that it is all based on the presupposition that there even is such a thing as a god! For all intents and purposes, we may as well be arguing about the intentions, motivations and purposes of any of these characters:

Achelois, Achelous, Acheron, Achilles, Achthonian, Acidalia, Adamanthea, Adephagia, Adonis, Adrastea, Adrasteia, Aeacos, Aeacus, Aegaeon, Aegina, Aegle, Aello, Aellopos, Aeolos, Aeolus, Aer, Aesculapius, Aethalides, Aether, Aethon, Aetna, Agave, Agdistes, Agdos, Aglaea, Aglaia, Aglauros, Aglaurus, Agraulos, Agrotara, Agrotora, Aiakos, Aigle, Aiolos, Air, Aither, Alcemana, Alcides, Alcmena, Alcmene, Alcyone, Alecto, Alectrona, Alexandra, Aloadae, Alpheos, Alpheus, Amalthea, Amaltheia, Amarynthia, Ampelius, Amphion, Amphitrite, Amphitryon, Amymone, Ananke, Andromeda, Antaeus, Antaios, Anteros, Anticlea, Antiklia, Antiope, Apate, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apollon, Arachne, Arcas, Ares, Arethusa, Argeos, Argus, Ariadne, Arion, Arion(2), Aristaeus, Aristaios, Aristeas, Arkas, Artemis, Asclepius, Asklepios, Asopus, Asteria, Asterie, Astraea, Astraeus, Atalanta, Ate, Athamas, Athamus, Athena, Athene, Atlantides, Atlas, Atropos, Attis, Attropus, Augean Stables, Augian Stables, Aurai, Autolycus, Autolykos, Auxesia,
Bacchae, Bacchantes, Balius, Bellerophon, Bia, Bias, Boreads, Boreas, Briareos, Briareus, Bromios,
Cadmus, Caeneus, Caenis, Calais, Calchas, Calliope, Callisto, Calypso, Cassandra, Castor, Cecrops, Celaeno, Celoneo, Ceneus, Cerberus, Cercopes, Cerigo, Cerynean Hind, Ceryneian Hind, Cerynitis, Ceto, Chaos, Charites, Charon, Charybdis, Cheiron, Chelone, Chimaera, Chimera, Chione, Chiron, Chloe, Chloris, Chronos, Chronus, Circe, Clio, Clotho, Clymene, Coeus, Coltus, Comus, Cottus, Cotys, Cotytto, Cretan Bull, Crius, Cronos, Cronus, Cybele, Cyclopes, Cynthia, Cyrene, Cytherea,
Danae, Daphnaie, Deimos, Deimus, Deino, Delos, Delphyne, Demeter, Demphredo, Deo, Despoena, Deucalion, Deukalion, Dice, Dike, Dione, Dionysos, Dionysus, Dioscuri, Dithyrambos, Doris, Dryades, Dryads,
Echidna, Echo, Eileithyia, Eirene, Ekhidna, Ekho, Electra, Electra(2), Electra(3), Elektra, Eleuthia, Elpis, Empousa, Empousai, Empusa, Enosichthon, Enyalius, Enyo, Eos, Epaphos, Epaphus, Ephialtes, Epimeliades, Epimeliads, Epimelides, Epimetheus, Epiona, Epione, Epiphanes, Erato, Erebos, Erebus, Erichthoneus, Erichthonius, Erinyes, Eris, Eros, Erotes, Erymanthean Boar, Erymanthian Boar, Erytheia, Erytheis, Erythia, Ether, Eumenides, Eunomia, Euphrosyne, Europa, Euros, Eurus, Euryale, Eurybia, Eurydice, Eurynome, Eurystheus, Euterpe,
Fates, Furies,
Ga, Gaea, Gaia, Gaiea, Galeotes, Ganymede, Ganymedes, Ge, Geryon, Geryones, Geyron, Glaucus, Gorgons, Graces, Graeae, Graiae, Graii, Gratiae, Gyes, Gyges,
Hades, Haides, Halcyone, Hamadryades, Hamadryads, Hapakhered, Harmonia, Harmony, Harpies, Harpocrates, Harpyia, Harpyiai, Hebe, Hecate, Hecatoncheires, Hecatonchires, Hekate, Hekatonkheires, Helen, Helice, Helios, Helius, Hemera, Hemere, Hephaestus, Hephaistos, Hera, Heracles, Herakles, Hermaphroditos, Hermaphroditus, Hermes, Hespera, Hesperethousa, Hesperia, Hesperides, Hesperids, Hesperie, Hesperis, Hesperos, Hesperus, Hestia, Himeros, Hippolyta, Hippolytos, Hippolytta, Hippolytus, Hope, Horae, Horai, Hyacinthus, Hyades, Hydra, Hydriades, Hydriads, Hygeia, Hygieia, Hymen, Hymenaeus, Hymenaios, Hyperion, Hypnos, Hypnus, Hyppolyta, Hyppolyte,
Iacchus, Iambe, Iapetos, Iapetus, Ilithyia, Ilythia, Inachus, Ino, Io, Ion, Iphicles, Irene, Iris,

Kadmos, Kalais, Kalliope, Kallisto, Kalypso, Kekrops, Kelaino, Kerberos, Keres, Kerkopes, Keto, Khaos, Kharon, Kharybdis, Kheiron, Khelone, Khimaira, Khione, Khloris, Khronos, Kirke, Kleio, Klotho, Klymene, Koios, Komos, Kore, Kottos, Krios, Kronos, Kronus, Kybele, Kyklopes, Kyrene,
Lachesis, Laertes, Lakhesis, Lamia, Lampetia, Lampetie, Leda, Leimoniades, Leimoniads, Lethe, Leto, Limoniades, Limoniads, Linus,
Maenads, Maia, Maiandros, Maliades, Mares of Diomedes, Meandrus, Medea, Medousa, Medusa, Meliades, Meliads, Meliai, Melidae, Melpomene, Memnon, Menoetius, Menoitos, Merope, Metis, Minos, Minotaur, Mnemosyne, Modesty, Moirae, Moirai, Momos, Momus, Mopsus, Mormo, Mormolykeia, Morpheus, Mousai, Muses, Myiagros,
Naiades, Naiads, Naias, Nemean Lion, Nemeian Lion, Nemesis, Nephele, Nereides, Nereids, Nereus, Nike, Nikothoe, Niobe, Nix, Nomios, Nona, Notos, Notus, Nox, Nymphai, Nymphs, Nyx,
Oannes, Obriareos, Oceanides, Oceanids, Oceanus, Ocypete, Odysseus, Oeager, Oeagrus, Oenomaus, Oinone, Okeanides, Okypete, Okypode, Okythoe, Omphale, Oreades, Oreads, Oreiades, Oreiads, Oreithuia, Oreithyia, Orion, Orithyea, Orithyia, Orpheus, Orphus, Orth, Orthrus, Ossa, Otus, Ourania, Ouranos,
Paeon, Paieon, Paion, Pallas, Pallas(2), Pallas(3), Pallas(5), Pallas Athena, Pan, Panacea, Panakeia, Pandemos, Pandora, Pasiphae, Pasithea, Pegasos, Pegasus, Pelops, Pemphredo, Penia, Penie, Perse, Perseis, Persephone, Perseus, Persis, Perso, Petesuchos, Phaethousa, Phaethusa, Phaeton, Phantasos, Phema, Pheme, Phemes, Philammon, Philomenus, Philyra, Philyre, Phobetor, Phobos, Phobus, Phoebe, Phoebe(2), Phoibe, Phorcys, Phorkys, Phospheros, Pleiades, Ploutos, Plutus, Podarge, Podarke, Pollux, Polyhymnia, Polymnia, Polyphemos, Polyphemus, Pontos, Pontus, Poros, Porus, Poseidon, Priapos, Priapus, Prometheus, Proteus, Psyche, Pyrrha, Python,
Rhadamanthus, Rhadamanthys, Rhamnusia, Rhea, Rheia,
Sabazius, Salmoneus, Sarapis, Sarpedon, Scamander, Scylla, Seilenos, Seirenes, Selene, Semele, Serapis, Sibyl of Cumae, Sibyls, Silenos, Silenus, Sirens, Sisyphus, Sito, Skamandros, Skylla, Spercheios, Spercheus, Sperkheios, Sphinx(2), Sterope, Stheno, Stymphalian Birds, Stymphalion Birds, Styx, Syrinx,
Tantalus, Tartaros, Tartarus, Taygete, Telchines, Telkhines, Terpsichore, Terpsikhore, Tethys, Thalassa, Thaleia, Thalia, Thamrys, Thanatos, Thanatus, Thanotos, Thaumas, Thea, Thebe, Theia, Thelxinoe, Themis, Theseus, Thetis, Thetys, Three Fates, Titanes, Titanides, Titans, Tithonus, Triptolemos, Triptolemus, Triton, Tritones, Tyche, Tykhe, Typhoeus, Typhon,
Ulysses, Urania, Uranus,
Xanthos, Xanthus,
Zephyros, Zephyrs, Zephyrus, Zetes, Zethes, Zethus, Zeus,

"If you understand why you reject all the other religions, you'll understand why I reject yours."

Re: The Eternal Life Oxymoron- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:58:28 -0000

JohnK2 deleted his/her own post.

If you subscribe to the comments by email or rss, you'd be able to read the comments, even if deleted.

Re: The Eternal Life Oxymoron- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:21:19 -0000

And, to add to your observational and logical skills, those who attend Alcoholics Anonymous do so to validate their lack of desire to continue to be addicted to alcohol.

There isn't a shred of evidence to disprove that Allah is the true GOD! DUH!!!!

Finally, I don't know why there are people who are sooooo bothered by the fact that there are people who think that Christianity is a bullshit cult. I think it a bit arrogant that you suggest that your imaginary friend will be soooo upset from disbelief that SHE is determined to torture all unbelievers forever in a horrific pain and torment.

Just saying....

Re: Trying to Keep the Baby Without the Bathwater- Testimonies of Ex-Christians

webmdave — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:28:28 -0000

My response: http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2006/12/conv...

Re: Pastor charged in wife's death - ExChristian.Net - News and Opinion

webmdave — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:19:36 -0000

Ex-pastor guilty of murder
Wife slain by shotgun blast in back at their Vincent home

A jury deliberated less than two hours Friday before convicting a former Vincent pastor of murder for shooting his wife in the back with a shotgun.

Timothy Dane Tillman, 45, was found guilty of the Oct. 26, 2005, slaying of Janet Lorita Tillman, 40. She was killed in the home where she and her husband lived with their two daughters.

He also was convicted of possession of a forged instrument, in the forgery of a $5,000 check in his wife's name months after her death.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/metro.ssf...

Re: The Story of a Recent Doubter- Testimonies of Ex-Christians

webmdave — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:16:06 -0000

I shared some fear of "being wrong" at the beginning of my de-conversion as well. The way I got around the fear is that I was pretty confident that if there were a god, he/she/it would be a whole lot more understanding about things than the god described by the Bible. I figured, if God was really someone or something to look up to and admire and love, eternally torturing someone just because that person was afflicted with honest doubts would not be in God's bag of tricks, so to speak. If I were to believe in a god now, that god would have to possess considerably more impressive attributes and personalities (not to mention some testable evidence of existence) than the current offerings.

Re: The Story of a Recent Doubter- Testimonies of Ex-Christians

webmdave — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:45:23 -0000

All members here who join our forum at http://ex-christian.net have the option of contacting each other through private messages.

Re: The Judge- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:35:36 -0000

Yes, I wrote it. I also recorded the Podcast.

Re: The Judge- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:51:30 -0000

You really don't get it, do you? No one here is trying to convert you or rather, de-convert you. This site isn't called "DeconversionEvangelismToDelusionalChristians.Net."

Again, I ask you, do you honestly think ANY approach would really bring you to the point of de-conversion? You'll no doubt fail to answer this question, again, but the point is, you come here and criticize when you obviously have no intention of changing your mind about anything. You are only here to preach, and preach, and preach. Even your condescending finger-pointing at various posters here is nothing more than self-righteous preaching. No one solicited your input. No one begged you to start up a conversation.

Leaving the mind-controlling cult of Christianity is a painful process, and you have placed yourself in the position of trying to re-sell people on that cult. And then you're surprised that anyone is upset about it? OMG! If you'll stop being such a little whiny baby about being treated badly and actually attempt to answer some of the hard questions put to you rather than simply equivocating, you'll gain all the respect you so desperately crave.

Re: The Judge- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:04:40 -0000

You know, Keith. You are a real gem. Thank you for reminding me what it was like to hang out with self-righteous asshats. Thank you for reminding me what it was like to be a self-righteous asshat when I was a Christian.

Perhaps someday, Keith, you'll wake up to realize how duped you've been by your religion. And when that happens, I dare say you'll have little patience at times for religious delusions.

By the way, not everyone here is an atheist. Rejecting Christianity doesn't immediately mean "atheist." And please do not attempt to label all atheists with your narrow opinion. Atheists are as diverse a group as there is, united by only one thing: disbelief in gods. Outside of that, what any of them like or dislike is up for debate. From your ignorant marginalizing of atheists, I can only assume that you also believe white people can't dance and black people can jump.

What you have to realize, Keith, is that the majority of people here were once what even you would consider "True Christians™." Some served sincerely for decades before coming to the realization that the Christian cult is false. And since not everyone has the same personality, not everyone is going to respond to that realization in exactly the same way. Your demand that everyone conform to your style is extremely self-promoting. Do you really think you're better than other people?

Re: The Judge- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:53:22 -0000

A two-way conversation is fine, but while you keep pointing fingers at the tone of some posters, I will point my finger at you regarding your avoidance of answering MY questions and your constant equivocation.

What was that about a log and a speck?

Re: The Judge- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:50:32 -0000

YOU do not have the authority to define sin! Sin is NOT defined in the Bible as missing the mark. You are parroting modern evangelicalese. Here is the definition of sin:

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:4

You really need to learn your Bible, Keith.

Re: The Judge- ExChristian.Net - Articles

webmdave — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:41:02 -0000

Keith, do you really have any intention on changing your mind? Is it even a possibility (in your mind) that you might come to conclude that Christianity is bullshit? Because if there is not even the slightest hint of doubt in your little head as to the reality of your supernatural world, then there is not much point in your whining and showing a superiority complex when you are told you are full of shit. Since your only purpose here is to evangelize for your cult, and the only purpose of this site is to encourage former Christian cultists, then you should expect a diverse variety of verbal resistance. Get over it.